iNewbie
Oct 3, 10:14 AM
Yet another Notes hater here.
I first came across it at work in 1992 or so, back with version 2. We used it for our customer support and sales databases, and the company were still using it in 1999 when I finally left them. By then they were also developing a web-server product based on the current Notes webserver component, and re-launched the company around this product, floating the company to obtain extra venture capital. It was quite frankly the worst performing web server I'd ever seen, and the company folded when the money ran out.
As part of supporting this junk product I had to pass a Notes exam. For that I learnt how Notes mail handled multiple copies of the same large attachment within multiple mailboxes. I forget the full details, but there was a nightly process that ran through the mail database and consolidated such attachments. It was a horrible mechanism. The previous mail system I came from handled this in a far simpler way by simply using hard links.
A collegue once ran the then current Notes release under the debug version of Windows 3.1, and had never seen so many reported errors in code.
I'd also had to integrate Notes (version 4 I believe) into another E-mail sytem via a gateway at a customer. Configuring SMTP to an external source under Notes was a pain, and it took 3 'engineers' about 4 hours to try all of the combinations before we could get it to both send and receive mail.
I've come across Notes a few times since then. Still horrible.
I just don't understand all these Notes haters and their anectodal stories.. I'm not trying to flame or argue... but only have a reasonable discussion..
You had a bad experience in 1999... Since version 5 came out in early 1999 you were likely on version 4.x. Notes has come a LONG way since then. This is like hating OSX because you had a bad experience with OS7 or System7 or whatever it was called. The webserver in those days was basically the FIRST version of it in the product. It was probably the internotes component.. you're right it probably wasn't very good back then.. The whole internet thing was jsut really taking off back then...
I haven't done much with shared mail which is what you're referencing regarding the attachments but again in the EARLY days it was something that people on notes.net said was not perfected.. Again it's a lot better now..
Notes is NOT going to cure cancer.. similar to Visual Basic it get's a bad rap because it's a RAPID APPLICATION development system. It's also easy to learn. Many Notes developers started out with no prior programming experience. As such not all notes apps in the early days were written very well. But do you know what's cool? All of those applications will still RUN on the latest version. There's no microsoft rip and replace business here. But is that really an advantage? I think so but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe companies really like to re-write existing applications because they will no longer work because Microsoft want's to do something "different"..
I first came across it at work in 1992 or so, back with version 2. We used it for our customer support and sales databases, and the company were still using it in 1999 when I finally left them. By then they were also developing a web-server product based on the current Notes webserver component, and re-launched the company around this product, floating the company to obtain extra venture capital. It was quite frankly the worst performing web server I'd ever seen, and the company folded when the money ran out.
As part of supporting this junk product I had to pass a Notes exam. For that I learnt how Notes mail handled multiple copies of the same large attachment within multiple mailboxes. I forget the full details, but there was a nightly process that ran through the mail database and consolidated such attachments. It was a horrible mechanism. The previous mail system I came from handled this in a far simpler way by simply using hard links.
A collegue once ran the then current Notes release under the debug version of Windows 3.1, and had never seen so many reported errors in code.
I'd also had to integrate Notes (version 4 I believe) into another E-mail sytem via a gateway at a customer. Configuring SMTP to an external source under Notes was a pain, and it took 3 'engineers' about 4 hours to try all of the combinations before we could get it to both send and receive mail.
I've come across Notes a few times since then. Still horrible.
I just don't understand all these Notes haters and their anectodal stories.. I'm not trying to flame or argue... but only have a reasonable discussion..
You had a bad experience in 1999... Since version 5 came out in early 1999 you were likely on version 4.x. Notes has come a LONG way since then. This is like hating OSX because you had a bad experience with OS7 or System7 or whatever it was called. The webserver in those days was basically the FIRST version of it in the product. It was probably the internotes component.. you're right it probably wasn't very good back then.. The whole internet thing was jsut really taking off back then...
I haven't done much with shared mail which is what you're referencing regarding the attachments but again in the EARLY days it was something that people on notes.net said was not perfected.. Again it's a lot better now..
Notes is NOT going to cure cancer.. similar to Visual Basic it get's a bad rap because it's a RAPID APPLICATION development system. It's also easy to learn. Many Notes developers started out with no prior programming experience. As such not all notes apps in the early days were written very well. But do you know what's cool? All of those applications will still RUN on the latest version. There's no microsoft rip and replace business here. But is that really an advantage? I think so but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe companies really like to re-write existing applications because they will no longer work because Microsoft want's to do something "different"..
Prom1
Sep 12, 08:11 PM
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z112/aer0sm1th/122.jpg
I guess that's the G-Rated version ;).
I guess that's the G-Rated version ;).
Flying Llama
Aug 19, 06:30 PM
my first try it suckstoo much to come ne where near to winning but so what only 90 some to go anyways
bah! what are you talking about??? it's fanstastic!
bah! what are you talking about??? it's fanstastic!
rich2000
Oct 12, 10:40 AM
It's certainly not as sleek as before but that's my first impression. Not quite as professional looking and the UI is almost 'overdone'.
Might revert to Tweetie 1.
Maps are nice though.
That's it exactly, I've been trying to think what it is... and you're right the UI is actually overdone!
Might revert to Tweetie 1.
Maps are nice though.
That's it exactly, I've been trying to think what it is... and you're right the UI is actually overdone!
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APlasticFork
May 4, 01:37 PM
Ohhh, alright is seems clear enough :)
rezenclowd3
Apr 4, 07:45 PM
Personally I dislike the F series BMWs. From afar I don't know if it's a decent looking run of the mill Japanese car or an actual BMW. The E39 5 series I do agree with being just tits though. I think the E36 3 series usually look like junkers unless they are in pristine condition, which most seem to be utterly abused. Bring back the E46 style headlights and rear, with the very distinct OVAL kidneys.
My favorite car of all time as its truly lightweight AND nutty HP/Torque unlike the Veyron which is just heavy and nutty HP/Torque:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/170/418114836_fde6bfe1e6.jpg
Then the other truly beautiful car IMO is the Orca C11 which a father and son made:
http://www.desiwalls.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/orca-c113-02.jpg
http://www.freewebs.com/gadget1127/2004_ORCA_C113_Prototype.jpg
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2005/2005-Orca-C113-Prototype-Engine-1280x960.jpg
I'm also a sucker for 90s vaporware supercars...
Also, the BMW 8 series should not have been stopped...so beautiful and the interior to die for.... The only thing wrong with it was to try to add 2 very small back seats:
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhvkjC-7Ce1lXXb14VuA9aeHWIydllbZlKfV4-ze53OlwDRGNXIqpYLd2otopuW5gd1xZEDQViBnUChlDDfiPzRevYmoADCSSMjmepf3UcaGQ4fDHeRRrvOBBZ5CNoRivNeYzj4W9lm0es/s1600/bmw_1992-850CSi-002_4.jpg
I just wish I fit in it....otherwise I would have picked one up by now...
And THE car that set THE standard in the sporty family car market:
http://images.paultan.org/images/History_M3_E30_1.jpg
My favorite car of all time as its truly lightweight AND nutty HP/Torque unlike the Veyron which is just heavy and nutty HP/Torque:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/170/418114836_fde6bfe1e6.jpg
Then the other truly beautiful car IMO is the Orca C11 which a father and son made:
http://www.desiwalls.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/orca-c113-02.jpg
http://www.freewebs.com/gadget1127/2004_ORCA_C113_Prototype.jpg
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2005/2005-Orca-C113-Prototype-Engine-1280x960.jpg
I'm also a sucker for 90s vaporware supercars...
Also, the BMW 8 series should not have been stopped...so beautiful and the interior to die for.... The only thing wrong with it was to try to add 2 very small back seats:
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhvkjC-7Ce1lXXb14VuA9aeHWIydllbZlKfV4-ze53OlwDRGNXIqpYLd2otopuW5gd1xZEDQViBnUChlDDfiPzRevYmoADCSSMjmepf3UcaGQ4fDHeRRrvOBBZ5CNoRivNeYzj4W9lm0es/s1600/bmw_1992-850CSi-002_4.jpg
I just wish I fit in it....otherwise I would have picked one up by now...
And THE car that set THE standard in the sporty family car market:
http://images.paultan.org/images/History_M3_E30_1.jpg
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Ashwee
Mar 25, 02:02 PM
Just a hint:
http://maps.me.com/
http://maps.me.com/
note235
Jul 9, 09:16 PM
Any extra one.
8GB
$700 shipped
can local pickup
accept MO,transfer and check.
note235 is heatware
8GB
$700 shipped
can local pickup
accept MO,transfer and check.
note235 is heatware
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applemacdude
Jul 1, 09:57 PM
Boot off the cd by pressing the c key. Initalize the drive again and install right after
swinneyn
Oct 28, 02:15 AM
I don't think this really looks at all like an apple ad but i thought I'd take a shot :)
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Shawnpk
May 3, 12:47 AM
I have a 250gb Seagate Free Agent Go Flex drive ... I was just wondering when they would launch the thunderbolt adapter and would i then be able to use that drive for time machine? with thunderbolt speeds?
I have the 1.5TB model and I've also been wondering if/when they would launch the Thunderbolt adapter. Although I already use mine for time machine.
I have the 1.5TB model and I've also been wondering if/when they would launch the Thunderbolt adapter. Although I already use mine for time machine.
Lord Blackadder
Jan 10, 04:47 PM
VW figured out that bigger sells better in the mid-size four door sedan market, so they bumped it up. They decontented a bit, and they also moved production to the US (http://www.autoblog.com/2011/01/09/2012-volkswagen-passat-chattanooga-vw/). I guess VW has decided to move from "affordable German luxury" back to "The people's car".
It's a shame, really, because they are removing the very qualities that would make me shop for a VW. I would prefer a Golf though. As I said above, I wonder if Golf will maintain its more European character, or if it too will be dumbed-down and upsized.
It's a shame, really, because they are removing the very qualities that would make me shop for a VW. I would prefer a Golf though. As I said above, I wonder if Golf will maintain its more European character, or if it too will be dumbed-down and upsized.
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phpmaven
Apr 6, 01:25 PM
12 Petabytes doesn't seem like all that much. I have a 2TB drive sitting on my desk, and this would be like 6,000 of my drives. Doesn't seem like that much when you think about the amount of customers they are likely to be serving.
Is that the car from back to the future? Those movies were great :)
Younger Dr. Emmett Brown: [running out of the room] 1.21 gigawatts? 1.21 gigawatts? Great Scott!
Marty McFly: [following] What-what the hell is a gigawatt?
Is that the car from back to the future? Those movies were great :)
Younger Dr. Emmett Brown: [running out of the room] 1.21 gigawatts? 1.21 gigawatts? Great Scott!
Marty McFly: [following] What-what the hell is a gigawatt?
CubusX
Apr 7, 04:13 PM
Like many, since 4.3 battery life has sucked. I am recharging mid day.
Hopefully, they finally fix the battery.
Hopefully, they finally fix the battery.
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bigrobb
Dec 6, 05:52 PM
Mind posting the source to that black 'n blue Apple-logo one?
Looks shweet :cool:
I can't remember where got it but I will post mine
Looks shweet :cool:
I can't remember where got it but I will post mine
raj9103
Jul 8, 06:46 PM
What is the best place to buy apple merchandise on the internet not at the company store?
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Hazza95
Jan 25, 02:32 PM
i bought the season pass for Chuck season 4, and ep12 said it was ready to download. after it downloaded and i started watching it. it was ****** Pretty Little Liars instead!! WHAT THE HELL?! not happy. Is it other people as well or just me? :confused: get back to me soon.
Sonny bro
Mar 17, 11:00 PM
Wirelessly posted (Ipod touch 4g 4.2.1: Mozilla/5.0 (Sonny Bro!; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8C148 Safari/6533.18.5)
Im not.
Im not.
spicyapple
Nov 29, 12:19 PM
People who pirate movies wouldn't have bought the movie in the first place. Adding usage restrictions only hurts the customers who bought the movie. If the studios are worried people will transfer movies to their friend's iPods, then they probably have their heads in the sand regarding the swapping of DVDs.
Still, the concept of limiting consumers' rights is the issue at hand.
Still, the concept of limiting consumers' rights is the issue at hand.
ChrisA
Mar 23, 09:26 PM
Using Apogee Duet and would like to record Safari 10.0.4.
Any pointers in the right direction would be much appreciated in advance...
Cheers,
K.
You can capture the audio without need of any hardware like the Duet using software like "audio hijack"
http://www.rogueamoeba.com/audiohijackpro/
Any pointers in the right direction would be much appreciated in advance...
Cheers,
K.
You can capture the audio without need of any hardware like the Duet using software like "audio hijack"
http://www.rogueamoeba.com/audiohijackpro/
mcrain
Mar 3, 02:46 PM
I'm not "relating" anything to slavery, it's the only example I can think of where the people you are defending actually made 100% of the income. That's the logical and almost actual extension of your argument. (I can't believe you're calling me out, when you just posted a poll asking if people think we should go back to an interpretation of the Constitution that would allow the blatently racist actions of the years following the aboloshment of slavery through the 60s).
You want to lower the tax burdens of people who have all the money, when everything is pointing to the wealth in this country being more and more consolidated in the hands of a very small group of people. In addition, everything is pointing to the economy and business being in trouble because of the very policy you are supporting.
You want to lower the tax burdens of people who have all the money, when everything is pointing to the wealth in this country being more and more consolidated in the hands of a very small group of people. In addition, everything is pointing to the economy and business being in trouble because of the very policy you are supporting.
iApache
Sep 11, 12:47 AM
Thank you sir!
twoodcc
Dec 25, 04:31 PM
yeah there's no doubt about it, we need more users. i think we need to get more active on here, and then more users will come.
we really need more users with those new mac pros that can run the bigadv units. i'm doing all i can, but we need a lot more
we really need more users with those new mac pros that can run the bigadv units. i'm doing all i can, but we need a lot more
mkzamora
Mar 11, 09:58 AM
Will be stopping by on my lunch to check out the situation, I'll post a pic of the line if there is one.
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